UVerse likes to lose FOX Sports 1 and 2 entirely

Oh really, what's Charter going to do?

Chris
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Really, you are going to compare Fox to Hallmark?  I agree with AT&T's stance but it stinks for subscribers.  How would you like it if in the middle of your contract on a car the lender decided that the air is now more and we're going to raise your rates so you can have air to breath?

Fox News has far many more viewers than Hallmark. Keep in mind that the contract with Fox also includes broadcast Fox (Simpsons, Family guy, American Idol, etc.)

To compare the two is beyond silly.

And if we want to compare contracts, what about the contracts with Disney (everything "Disney" and "ESPN" plus possibly more)? Turner (TBS, TNT, TruTV)? Viacom (a gaggle of MTVs and VH1s)? Comcast (NBC, NBCSN, CNBC, MSNBC)?

All those contracts were renewed easy-peasy.

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@baseballisback wrote:

Fox News has far many more viewers than Hallmark. Keep in mind that the contract with Fox also includes broadcast Fox (Simpsons, Family guy, American Idol, etc.)

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but broadcast Fox would fall under negotiations with the local affiliates rather than the network. 

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@MicCheck wrote:

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@baseballisback wrote:

Fox News has far many more viewers than Hallmark. Keep in mind that the contract with Fox also includes broadcast Fox (Simpsons, Family guy, American Idol, etc.)

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but broadcast Fox would fall under negotiations with the local affiliates rather than the network. 

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Depends.  Most Fox stations are O&O by Fox directly.  If they choose to do so, they could lump in the local stations in with the cable channels.  The only exceptions would be the stations that are licencing Fox TV.

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@BenDover5160 wrote:
Once the UVerse contract with FOX Sports expires, whenever that is, things will go one of two ways. Either they will renew the channels for everything including Big East basketball, NASCAR, and soccer, or they will stop carrying them entirely. Judging by what happened with Hallmark and NHL Network, it will probably be the latter. And who knows, FOX and AT&T might just completely fall out, leading to the loss of FOX News, FX, FXX, your local FOX network affiliate, your local FOX Sports networks (like FOX Sports South for example), and maybe others.

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And that's probably why it won't get to that point - especially as Fox has Sunday afternoon NFL coverage.  Even if it's just Fox Sports 1, I think enough people watch it so that AT&T will pay pretty much whatever Fox asks.  They're not doing it now because it's "only" a handful of events.

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@americangame wrote:

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@MicCheck wrote:

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@baseballisback wrote:

Fox News has far many more viewers than Hallmark. Keep in mind that the contract with Fox also includes broadcast Fox (Simpsons, Family guy, American Idol, etc.)

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but broadcast Fox would fall under negotiations with the local affiliates rather than the network. 

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Depends.  Most Fox stations are O&O by Fox directly.  If they choose to do so, they could lump in the local stations in with the cable channels.  The only exceptions would be the stations that are licencing Fox TV.

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Yeah...there's a company which owns two local channels in my city. (No idea how, but apparently the one's parent company was acquired by the other. Either way ,they were able to get around some sort of FCC regulation...)

ANYWAY...

The contract between affiliate owner (Sinclair) and provider (not AT&T) was up for renewal. At  separate time, the contract between provider and channel (FOX or ABC...forget) was up for renewal. It was a few years ago, but they made a big deal about how national shows would be blacked out.

Previously before that, Sinclair wanted more money to give out the HD feeds of those two channels. The provider balked, saying that because they were OTA channels and could be received for free, the provider shouldn't have had to pay Sinclair. As a result, the channels were not available to the provider in HD for quite a while. Eventually, they agreed to terms. Of course, this was when HD was relatively new and there were about 4-6 channels available with the box, plus one channel of HBO and Cinemax in HD. ESPN-HD was the only channel on the "additional fee" tier.

Don't you just love a OPW, okay a TPW, who starts something and never returns to join in the fray or at least defend their rant?

@oufanindallas - most FS1 and Music Choice posts do mention Hallmark.  The reason why, (if I'm allowed to put words in their mouths) is that most, decent TV providers have Hallmark, have a decent music service and have all programming from FS1.  I do see that the TV part of U-Verse has taken a bit of rebellious path.  In the end, the customers are odd man out.  PLEASE don't let AT&T be as nutso as Direct TV, (EDIT: I meant Dish)   in terms of shutting stuff off!  I'm still mad over losing Media Share.  I was told it was underutilized.  If anything, it was under advertised.  Oy!

@dhascall Yep, OPWs abound when something doesn't go their way.  Fox is who they need to be complaining to and in a round about way Comcast since it's now the Xfinity series.  I still call it Busch.  Been known to call it Winston Cup as well.  Can't stand it when they mention Dale Earnhard and Spint Championship or even calling Chase Elliot the Xfinity Champ.  Um, nope it was Winston Cup and Nationwide championships respectively.

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@dhascall wrote:

Don't you just love a O PW, okay a TPW, who starts something and never returns to join in the fray or at least defend their rant?

 

@oufanindallas - most FS1 and Music Choice posts do mention Hallmark.  The reason why, (if I'm allowed to put words in their mouths) is that most, decent TV providers have Hallmark, have a decent music service and have all programming from FS1.  I do see that the TV part of U-Verse has taken a bit of rebellious path.  In the end, the customers are odd man out.  PLEASE don't let AT&T be as nutso as Direct TV, in terms of shutting stuff off!  I'm still mad over losing Media Share.  I was told it was underutilized.  If anything, it was under advertised.  Oy!

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@dwinth Pegged him as a Charter troll, the name Ben Dover, bend over, he never replied to that thread.

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@mibrnsurg wrote:

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@dhascall wrote:

Don't you just love a O PW, okay a TPW, who starts something and never returns to join in the fray or at least defend their rant?

 

@oufanindallas - most FS1 and Music Choice posts do mention Hallmark.  The reason why, (if I'm allowed to put words in their mouths) is that most, decent TV providers have Hallmark, have a decent music service and have all programming from FS1.  I do see that the TV part of U-Verse has taken a bit of rebellious path.  In the end, the customers are odd man out.  PLEASE don't let AT&T be as nutso as Direct TV, in terms of shutting stuff off!  I'm still mad over losing Media Share.  I was told it was underutilized.  If anything, it was under advertised.  Oy!

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@dwinth Pegged him as a Charter troll, the name Ben Dover, bend over, he never replied to that thread.

 

Chris
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I thought I had posted this, but BenDover5160 seems to be the Charter version of Paul416 aka Larry11 aka Dian1950 who touted Comcast all the time.

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@oufanindallas wrote:

@dhascall Yep, OPWs abound when something doesn't go their way.  Fox is who they need to be complaining to and in a round about way Comcast since it's now the Xfinity series.  I still call it Busch.  Been known to call it Winston Cup as well.  Can't stand it when they mention Dale Earnhard and Spint Championship or even calling Chase Elliot the Xfinity Champ.  Um, nope it was Winston Cup and Nationwide championships respectively.

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There are some OPW's who mention Comcast/Xfinity as the reason that we aren't seeing live "Busch" races on FS1.  As much pull as the almighty Comcast has, they do not own Big East basketball, lol.

Speaking of what we call stuff in NASCAR, I still call the 300 mile race the day before the Daytona 500, the "Sportsman race."  The old Late Model Sportsman (LMS) series and cars morphed into the Busch series in 1982.  Prior to 1982, the NASCAR LMS was a very cool yet diverse series.  Many tracks in the Southeast had an LMS class.  You could take your Saturday night car (or Friday or Sunday afternoon) and race with the big boys at Daytona, Rockingham and so on.  Bobby Allison, Dale, Neil and so on had LMS cars and would barnstorm tracks all over the country plus race the bigger NASCAR LMS races.

I personally would be one of the thousands of subscribers that att&t would lose if they decide against renewing their contract with Fox. I mean they are about to lose my business now withnot having  this huge channel airing now. To hold out renewing is just idiotic. They never win. They always end up paying these huge broadcasters what they ask for in the end. And att&t is just enraging off their subscribers in the process. So good-bye Att&t. I pay way to much to just lose one of the biggest local broadcasters while you pout about have to pay one of your suppliers.