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Wednesday, July 12th, 2023 5:33 PM

Gemini remote turning on Genie receiver even in RF mode - multiple TV issue

Gemini remote is programmed via RF, works great.   Only issue is every time I turn the Gemini receiver on, it also turns on my Genie receiver (programmed to my Genie remote via RF only also).   

In testing, it appears after the Gemini remote fires off the RF turn on, then it sends a secondary IR turn on signal (I can see the lights at the top of the remote flash).   That one kicks the Genie receiver to turn on (it must be listening to IR / RF all the time) Is there a way to turn off the IR secondary action of the Gemini remote?  Remember it is paired via RF and that is the only selection set in the Gemini setup). 

Turning on my Genie box does NOT turn on my Gemini box (as expected).   The Genie remote does not seem to send a secondary IR signal after the RF execution. 

Thanks!   

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11 months ago

We would like to work together with you and provide you with the most accurate information about the RF and IR mode on your remote, and the way they interact with your Gemini and Genie. We've sent you a direct message to provide you with a personalized assistance. Samir, DIRECTV Community Specialist

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11 months ago

New owner of Geni / Gemini / Geni mini.

Quite surprised to see that my Gemini remote sends BOTH IR and RF on certain "commands", very goofy, but it seems to definitely do this "dual transmit" on power on, and maybe that is to ensure stuff gets turned on. In my case, the duplicate commands caused some issues, so I will be using a universal remote to ensure don't send duplicated and confuse my stuff....  (I use sofabaton)

ACE - Expert

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11 months ago

The Gemini remote uses Bluetooth and IR at the same time.

You may need to cover the Genie's IR sensor to prevent the Gemini remote from turning it on.

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11 months ago

Actually, I think it does not do ALL commands with both.... still collecting data. My installers did cover the IR, but they taped an emitter from my IR repeater to it!!!!

still sorting how it all works, but it will succumb to my investigation.

ACE - Expert

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11 months ago

Most TVs are still using IR to turn them on/off and control the volume so the remotes only send those codes.

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443 Messages

11 months ago

The DTV stuff I just replaced was either IR or RF, never both, but my stuff was old, like HR24 and H23, old big white "stick" remote.

My newer TV's are BT for the remote. But yeah, I would agree that the majority of tv's that are still working are IR.

ACE - Expert

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19.8K Messages

11 months ago

That changed with HR44 as that is the first Genie with the new RF protocol and starting using both IR to control the TV and the Genie if it was in line of site or RF if not.

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3 months ago

I recently (March 2024) swapped out a Genie mini for a Gemini unit and now have the same issue. When I use the Gemini remote to turn to turn on the Gemini unit it also sends out a IR signal that turns on my Genie main receiver. This triggers the TV connected to the Genie receiver to turn on. I called DirecTV tech support and they said they have not heard of this before. I solved the problem by using duck tape and a thick piece of paper to cover the IR sensor on the Genie receiver. My Genie remote is uses RF to control the Genie receiver so the IR sensor on the Genie receiver is not needed. This is a simple crude way to fix a DirecTV bug. 

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3 months ago

Not a total solution, but I think you can turn CEC off on the Genie Mini receiver/client. That would stop it turning on the TV, but then, normally you want the Genie to turn on "it's" TV, right?

The other thing you can do is put the Genie in a place it does not receive the IR, and then have it's remote in RF mode..

I have my stuff in a cabinet, and a small IR repeater system, with the emitters in the cabinet ONLY on the devices I want to change.

The Gemini receiver/client ALWAYS receives both bluetooth and IR.

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3 months ago

Agreed, you are correct that turning off CEC on the Genie works. However, yes I want the Genie to turn on its corresponding TV, so I don’t turn off the CEC on the Genie. My setup is one AV cabinet for two rooms next to each other. The Genie and Gemini are in the same cabinet with other components. Those other components use IR. I also have an IR repeater that sends the IR signal to the cabinet. The IR transmitters in the cabinet are area transmitter which can’t be put on just one component. So covering the IR sensor on the Genie will work for me. 


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