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Thursday, May 7th, 2015 3:00 PM

Local Television (Over the Air) Baseball

I found a web site that shows that local television (over the air) baseball is a dying breed.Of course, we all know that.

 

I knew that the Cubs and White Sox telecast locally to Chicago, but to my surprise there are still some teams that have a few local telecasts. They include Baltimore 20 games, Detroit 1 game (the home opener), the New York Yankees WPIX selected games, Oakland 1 game, Texas (Spring Training only), New York Mets WPIX selected games, Philadelphia (home opener and selected Friday and Saturday games), San Francisco (Friday games), and Washington 20 games.

 

I miss local coverage in St. Louis on either KSDK Channel 5 or KPLR Channel 11.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Major_League_Baseball_broadcasters

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Perhaps it's not exactly free TV for everyone (it was cable for me), but I miss the days when you could depend on having just about every game for the Braves, Cubs, and Mets on superstations like WTBS, WGN, and WOR. Harry Caray is one of the great memories of my youth; I watched many a game with my now deceased father. So are Braves announcers like Ernie Johnson, Pete Van Wieren, and Skip Caray. I also remember having a big satellite dish and getting the Yankees on WPIX, the Angels on KTLA, the Rangers on KTVT, and numerous free wild feeds. Now I have to subscribe to MLB.TV and the announcers, apart from Vin Scully, just don't seem as devoted and legendary to me. Ah, memories!

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@SportsFan1972 wrote:
Perhaps it's not exactly free TV for everyone (it was cable for me), but I miss the days when you could depend on having just about every game for the Braves, Cubs, and Mets on superstations like WTBS, WGN, and WOR. Harry Caray is one of the great memories of my youth; I watched many a game with my now deceased father. So are Braves announcers like Ernie Johnson, Pete Van Wieren, and Skip Caray. I also remember having a big satellite dish and getting the Yankees on WPIX, the Angels on KTLA, the Rangers on KTVT, and numerous free wild feeds. Now I have to subscribe to MLB.TV and the announcers, apart from Vin Scully, just don't seem as devoted and legendary to me. Ah, memories!

Was the Harry Caray of your youth, the Harry Caray of the White Sox and Cubs or the Harry Caray of the Cardinals? Believe me, the Harry Caray of the Cardinals was much better. And teamed with Jack Buck, you could not get any better.

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10 years ago

@dwinth The home opener in Detroit is a simulcast of the FSDetroit, same programs/commercials, as it is on the Fox O&O WJBK channel 2. Smiley Surprised

 

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Chris, I am only old enough to remember Harry Caray with the Cubs.

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@SportsFan1972 wrote:
Chris, I am only old enough to remember Harry Caray with the Cubs.

That was @dwinth talking about Harry Caray, but it was a trick question to see how old you are.  Harry Caray started at St Louis Cards in 1945 (later teaming w/Jack Buck) , Oakland A's 1970, Chicago White Sox 1971 and the Cubs in 1981.  Smiley Surprised

 

Edit:  We had a pretty good announcer for 37 years for the Detroit Tigers named George Kell, teamed w/Tiger great Al Kaline in the TV booth.  Our long time radio announcer, Ernie Harwell was no slouch either.

 

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10 years ago

Oakland's one local broadcast game gets an asterisk, as it's against San Francisco and is a Giants broadcast.

 

Speaking of the Giants, their local OTA broadcasts aren't all on Fridays - here are the remaining ones:

Saturday 5/9
Wednesday 5/20
Saturday 5/30
Friday 6/12
Friday 6/19
Wednesday 6/24
Saturday 7/11
Friday 7/17
Friday 7/24
Monday 7/27
Thursday 8/13
Friday 8/28
Saturday 9/12

In fact, they had one on Wednesday 4/29 that caused a problem as it forced the station to move an episode of Law & Order: SVU that was actually part 2 of a three-part crossover with Chicago Fire (which aired the previous night) and Chicago PD (which aired on the station after the game) to one of its digital subchannels - which, of course, U-Verse doesn't carry.

 

My guess as to why there are so few teams with OTA channels: there aren't many OTA channels willing to show them.  There aren't as many independent stations as there used to be, and networks are not happy when its shows (and the commercials it sells to air during those shows) get moved to a different time or even day because of local sports.

Case in point: the Giants were on KTVU pretty much since they moved to San Francisco.  However, when KTVU became a Fox affiliate, the baseball games started causing problems with the schedule; pre-empted shows would air at midnight, and if a game ran long, any show that was supposed to air after the game was moved to midnight as well, with no warning.  Fox (and the advertisers) was not particularly happy that KTVU was doing this to its shows, and to the commercials that went with them.  Also, KTVU had to listen to the post-episode promos that Fox aired, and would play music over the ones that mentioned a show airing on a date and time when KTUV broadcast a Giants game.  Fox threw a fit, and now the Giants are on a different channel.

A similar problem with the Athletics was one of the reasons NBC actually took away its affiliation from KRON.  There was one year when, because of an A's game, KRON decided to air NBC's coverage of the USA Olympic Track & Field Trials one year from midnight to 4 AM?

 

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10 years ago

Too bad the teams can't start their own OTA channels. Heck, we in Columbus had something like that called Columbus Sports Network (CSN for short) that was supposed to have Crew soccer, some Ohio State stuff like football and basketball not selected for ESPN/ABC/CBS and maybe even some minor-league baseball stuff plus stuff from the local race track.

 

Well, the Big Ten Conference decided to start their own channel (BTN) and they took everything Ohio State related and that was the essential end of CSN. It was only on the air a few months before flipping formats and I think it eventually died out.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCSN-LD

 

 

Take Detroit for example. In theory, the Red Wing (NHL), Tigers (MLB) and Pistons (NBA) and maybe even Toledo Mudhens (Tigers affiliate) could start a "Detroit Sports Channel" and all show/simulcast a few Saturday/Sunday games on there, but I'm sure they'd have to re-negotiate with FS Detroit and whatever other channels.

 

No, it appears the future of TV sportscasting is for each team to either start a network on their own or to team up with other local/regional teams and start their own pay-channel like what Time Warner has done in several areas. More money that way.

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