Critique my wiring schematic

you are pretty much correct.  the only  thing that is off, is that yo dont need BSF filter betwwen your LNB and the 16 way SWiM Switch.  this is because yo will be using a legacy 4 line LNB. so you will have 4 cables coming down the roof to the SWiM16 switch, then out of the switch you are going to have two outputs.  and each out suppots up to eight tuners.  a SWiM16 is like having two SWiM8 in one housing. so you will most likely need two eight way splitter, depending on how many tuners you are going to use.  HD receiver= 1 tuner, HDDVR=2 tuners

I actually have to order a dish (new construction), so why shouldn't I get a single line SWM dish/LNB vs. the legacy 4 line LNB?

Also, the 8 way splitter comment confuses me.  If I have a SWM 16 switch, does it not have enough outputs for all 8 of my TV's (two of which are DVR's)?  Are you saying that I'd have to come out of the SWM 16 switch into 2 8 way splitters to accomodate?

Finally, how does the DVR consume 2 "slots" on the splitter when there is only one coax ran to each one?

Thanks for the reply.

the SWiM16 switch gets feed by a legacy LNB.  either a SL3 or SL5.  the SL3 carries the 99, 101, 103 sats.  the SL5 carries the same plus 110, 119.  which one you used depend on wether you get your local from, and if you will be subscribing to the spanish or chinese package.

once you get the 4 lines to the SWiM16 from the dish, you are going to have 2 outputs on your switch.  each output supports upto eaight tuners. so you are going to need splitter to split each output using either a four way splitter or an eight way splitter.  even tho a DVR only uses one cable it still ahs two tuners.  so if you have 4 HDDVRs you will have eight tuner and that will be the maximun one one side of the switch

here is a picture of the switch

the bottom is your dish input.  then on the rightg side is your two outputs (top and bottom).  the middle is your power (dont need to used if you dont want to)because you coulld also use the top for power

Ok I think I'm with you. 

At the risk of restating what you have already stated (twice), let me make sure I have this correct.

You are saying that if I want to use a SWM16 switch, then it HAS to be fed from a legacy lnb(4).

The SWM16 switch really has 2 output ports, each of which can support up to a 8 way splitter.  I can either plug a power supply directly into the SWM16 switch, or one of the ports on the 8-way splitter hooked to Port#1 could have a PI attached (leaving 7 available "tuner" ports).  Each RG6 ran from the splitter to a HDDVR will consume 2 ports.  If I hook 2 HDDVR's and a PI to splitter #1, I will have 3 ports left.  The second 8-way splitter could run the other 6 tv's in my house...leaving 2 ports for future expansion.

Assuming the SWM16 is the right model, I do not need the BS Filter inline from the PI.

Thanks for the picture, but what are the ports on the left side for?

Thanks again for your time.

You got is almost 100% correct except for one thing.  The power inserter does not "consume" a port.  It is a pass through device and contains a port.  Note that you do not need to use an 8 way splitter, you can use as many 2 way or 4 way splitters you need to produce the coax feeds required.  All of those extra ports are legacy ports (for non SWM boxes) and flex ports (for other dish inputs)  See the schematic attached, ignoring the second switch on the right.

http://manuals.solidsignal.com/SWiM16.pdf

Just to be clear, since it sounds like you will have 10 tuners total, the SWM-16 and a conventional dish are the only real option you have. Also keep in mind that the number of ports on the splitters isn't what's important, it's the number of 'tuners' connected to each output of the SWM-16. For example, if you use an 8-way splitter and connect 4 DVRs, the other 4 ports on the splitter are essentially unusable becuase you've reached the 8 tuner limit for that output. Best to keep the splitters as close as possible to the actual number of outputs you need to minimize losses in the unused ports.

Great info.  Thanks guys.  I think i'm straight on this finally.  Now lets hope I can get a CSR that understands what I need 🙂

Finally, opinion question.  I already have 2 HR23's.  Would you guys upgrade to the HR24's so that I don't need a DECA at each set?

No.

I'd stick with the HR23s and save $400...

Perfect.  Didn't realize the $$ would be that much different.

Thanks again guys.

IN THAT PARTICULAR SCHEMATIC CAN I ADD A 3RD SWM-16 (CASCADE) OR THERE IS A LIMIT UP TO 2?

NEED MORE THAN 32+4 AVAILABLE LEGACY = 36 DROPS.

IF YES WITCH ONE COST MORE IN WIRING LOSS?

1) A TYPICAL 3 SWM-16 SWITCHES (CASCADE) TO HAVE UP TO 52 DROPS (3X16+4 LEGACY) OR

2) A SWM-E4 QUAD EXPANDER WITH 3 SWM-16 AND AN EMPTY SLOT? (IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO WORK ON THAT SWM-E4, 3 OR 4 SWM-16'S)

IN BOTH CASES WE HAVE THE SAME TOTAL WIRE LENGTH.

THIS ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION (ARE THEY GONNA WORK?)

3) IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO CASCADE 3 SWM-16'S WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL EQ NEEDED (AND HAVE IN TOTAL 52 DROPS) WHY I HAVE TO USE AN SWM-E4 QUAD EXPANDER WITCH IS WILL INCREASE MY COST?

IS ONLY WIRE MANAGEMENT REASONS, OR IS GONNA BE ALSO BETTER JOB?

PLEASE BE NOTICED THAT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CASE THAN THE ONE THAT I REPLY BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO ASK YOU DIRECTLY!

ALSO ATTRACT ME THE SCHEMATIC! IS WHAT EXACTLY I WANT WITH AN ADD OF A 3RD SWM-16 SWITCH!

I BELIEVE I AM ENOUGH SPECIFIC TO MAKE YOU GIVE ME QUICK AND SIMPLE ANSWERS!

THANKS PETER

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