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How do I tell if I have a SWM?
I called DTV and they said my dish didnt need to be upgraded. Does the SWM single-wire multiswitch mean only 1 wire should be coming from my satellite? or does that mean only 1 wire is needed to go to a receiver?
Basically I currently have Whole-Home DVR via Cat5, however I'd like to expand to some other rooms that arent as easy to fish cable to
Here is my current setup:
HR20-700 (2 cables go to this unit)
H21-200x3
Slimline 3 node 4 cables coming out of it
Zinwell SAM-4803 4x8 Multi-switch, this switch doesnt have a green label on it
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7833/switchr.jpg
Now if my dish is compatible, where do I need BSFs on the dish/switch? ABCD are cables coming from the dish, 1-7 are cables out to my receivers
1,2 go to my HR21
3 goes to a guest room that doesnt have a receiver currently
4 bedroom HR20
5 family room HR20
6-7 went to a standard DVR that was replaced by a HR20
so 3 and 7 wont be used anymore
I've read if you dont have a green label switch you need a BSF on "it" but I dont get what the it is.
Do I need a BSF on each of the 4 input cables?
On my DVR, do I need 1 deca and a BSF on my 2nd input?
Does it sound like I have a SWM?
goldw1800
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14 years ago
You currently Do NOT have a Swim Setup--If you upgrade to swim they will change out the LNB and provide all the green label equipment.
The Receivers All your Current HDDVRs will require a DECA -you will also need a Deca Connected near your (internet switch or Router) to enable all your receivers to connect to the internet with out wiring for cat5.
The Problem you may run into is with tuners currently you have 7 tuners ( Each DVR = 2 tuners) even though they only will require only one wire afer swim upgrade. Which is okay for now should you want to add additional receivers later or during the upgrade you will need to address that with the D* CSR and the installer.
Keep the LNB you have now with foru wires running . connect it to a SWIM 8 or SWIM 16 - which will allow your system to expand to 16 tuners instead of 8.
Your SD DVR(model number unknow) will require a BSF which the installer will provide. If it is not swim compatiable (look at the back) the RG6 input will say SWIM if it doesn't the using the swim 8 you can connect to a leagcy port outside of the swim spliter and you will not need a BSF for that to work.
Go to Http://www.soildsignal.com to get more info on the parts to be used.
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peds48
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rschmitty
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Thx guys, going to go with the DTV install vs DIY, needing a SWM put me over on cost vs them doing it.
Was able to get free install, free internet router, all the deca equipment and switch of course for $99 out the door + tax
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goldw1800
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Lets us know how it goes 🙂
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dcd
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Was able to get free install, free internet router, all the deca equipment and switch of course for $99 out the door + tax
A bargain in my opinion, and letting them do the work and back it as well is a bonus. I recently switched from a Cat5 system to a SWM and DECA system and it's working great.
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peds48
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Originally Posted by dcd
I recently switched from a Cat5 system to a SWM and DECA system and it's working great.
dcd, out of curiosity, why did you decided to "jump ship" to DECA. I am running 3 of my HDDVR's with cat5 and 2 of my HDDVR's with DECA. personal preference (for sharing purposes)
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djdicetn
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peds48_install,
Hmmmm...you've got me kinda confused with your "mixed bag" networking:0(
Seems like you can't share the content on the 3 HD DVR's netwoked on cat5 with the 3 HD DVR's networked on the DECA cloud and vice versa. Why would you do that???? I, like user dcd, networked my boxes via cat5e hard-wired connections way back when MRV(Multi-Room Viewing, now WHDVR) was Beta along with Media Share & DirecTV2PC. Me, I've pretty well maxxed out all 4 ethernet ports on my DSL Actiontec Gateway Modem and am using a Linksys 5 port Ethernet switch in my entertainment center(also maxxed out with connections). I decided to add a Blu-Ray player in the bedroom where my HR24-700 is at to stream Netflix so I had to get another Linksys Ethernet switch to accommodate that. I've pretty well decided that if I have to add one more "device" to my network I'm gonna get the DECA/Swm upgrade to free up some ethernet connections from my DirecTV boxes. Your's is the first intentional "hybrid" network setup for HD DVR's I've read about. Can you elude as to why.....and what the benefit(s) are???
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peds48
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I did too started networking my receivers way before DECA and SWM was available. when I moved from an apartment in queens NY to my Home in Long Island NY, I moved with three HDDVR's and networked them to my 16 port ethernet switch for IPPV purposes (there was very little on demand). I initially installed a legacy LNB because SWM was not readily available. some moths went by and I install my SWM LNB to get rid of the BBC's. then decided to add two more HDDVR's to the basement where my sister hangs out when she wants to come out of the city to the quite suburbs of Long Island. that put me over my SWM limit of 8 tuners. so I had to go bak to my legacy LNB and a SWM16. so my three HDDVR's are one one "side" of the SWM16 switch network with cat5 (I do not want to put the white DECA's, remember I removed my BBC's??). and also I did not want my sister to share my recordings and vice versa. she does not have a BB DECA (does not need it, I pay the bill) but her receivers are network via DECA. one HR21 (with a white DECA) and one HR24.
hopefully this makes sense. eventually I will have all receivers with DECA built in, and at that point I will go DECA all the way.
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djdicetn
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peds,
For two users, the split system makes sense now:0)
I'm curious too why ole dcd abandoned the "dependable" ethernet hard-wired setup. Guess he needed a DECA system for troubleshooting research when assisting WHDVR users on the forums since he already knew the ins & outs of a hard-wired system.
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dcd
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I'm curious too why ole dcd abandoned the "dependable" ethernet hard-wired setup.
Well, for one thing I got an offer I couldn't refuse. The installer couldn't have been nicer. Exchanged the R22 for a nice shiny HR24 and an ailing HR24 with another shiny new HR24. Then of course the SL3 SWM for the SL5 conventional. And the BB adapter of course. I had been having problems with the HR24 that I couldn't diagnose and they originally agreed to replace it and one thing led to another, and here we are.
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goldw1800
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I Changed My System out using a Swim 8 -3 Deca's +1 BBdcea
2 HR22
1 H21
1 H20 (BSF)
1 D10 -Connected to the leagcy port on the right.
I was connected using cat5 and bought everything on E-Bay for $40
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peds48
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since the switch is by the power supply, I would put the power inserter on the power only side (and terminate the signal to IRD port) and use the SWM8 output to feed the splitter. that way the the power inserter won't interfere with the MRV signals. over all good job. kudos to you.
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dcd
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Yes, Kudos for sure, a fine looking wiring job.
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