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Props to you DirecTV. This MRV feature came to fruition and it's working well. I had my 2 HD-DVR's working together for the last few weeks but then the amazing part: the long awaited HD receiver update (I got it late last week in Los Angeles).

From my HD-receiver, not only can I see and play both the HD-DVR's playlists in the combined playlist, but now have the ability to record from the HD Receiver. I didn't know this coming. The receiver is not actually recording (I know that), but you can ask it to "proxy" your request to your HD-DVR(s) (if you have more than 1, you can choose which HD-DVR to record the show). You then can stop your live HD receiver feed, go to the playlist, and play your new recording. All the pause, rewind, ff, features are there. That's fantastic!

I'll pay for MRV but PLEASE don't make it DECA only (I'm not sure what the latest news is). Please let people use their own ethernet setup like mine (who wired his house years ago waiting for this). I understand DirecTV will not support (help over the phone or on-site) the non-DECA setups, as it's the user's risk and responsibility, and that's fine with me. Supporting DECA only is fair considering DirecTV will understand that technology and be trained to help over the phone and onsite.

I see many users here struggling trying all those wireless and ethernet over power setups. Those who did get it working with those technologies - impressive! Good luck to everyone else but I would suggest a real CAT5e or CAT6 ethernet solution or wait for DECA. That's the only way to get low latency with fast bandwidth.

Thanks again DirecTV... like somebody said in a previous post: the best thing since HD.

jksellman · Answer

DITTOIf it isn't broken, don't fix it...Just add your deca as another way to go. (DTW: Will they have equal performance...features...speed????).

dcd · Answer

With a DECA system the MRV signals never pass through the router while with a Cat5 wired system they do. Whether that makes for a superior signal I don't know. My hard wired system is working perfectly. As one who answers dozens of posts every week from folks who can't get their network going, I welcome DECA with open arms. You'd be surprised at how many cannot get a DVR connected to a standard router.

hmcmott · Answer

I just have DVRs and never noticed if I had a choice on which DVR I was recording to. A receiver would have to have something different.

joed32 · Answer

dcd:Do you have SWM and DECA? If so, how much did it cost to have installed?

dcd · Answer

Nope, not yet, they are just starting rollout of the SWM/DECA equipment on new installs and HD upgrades in some areas. Note that the word is the installation will include a coax to Ethernet connection to the home's router. I'm assuming that will become the standard for all HD installations. When this does become available as an ordered upgrade I'll be first in line. I have no information as to the cost of the equipment or the monthly fee for MRV. I think the feature is really slick and we already use it on a daily basis so I won't mind a reasonable fee. I'd guess the equipment will be reasonably priced only for the fact that Directv usually heavily subsidizes installations.
Down the line a DECA enabled router will be available which combined should make troubleshooting for folks a lot easier and will allow installers to offer a complete system (except ISP of course)

djdicetn · Answer

dcd,Have you read the post purporting to know the details of pricing(MRV @ $5/month and DECA/SWM installs for customers 'not networked' @ $99)??? I, like this OP, am impressed with MRV over the cat5e hard-wired network. Got to play with it for the first time on my H21 for a few minutes last night and almost pee'd my pants:0)It's just like my H21 is a 'pseudo-DVR'!!! Can I be 'second in line' for a 'permanent' MRV install??? Of course that does make me even more inclined to swing by your place in Jersey when we go on vacation. I really need your wife(who 'LOVES' the MRV) to talk to my wife:0)Of course I have a little leverage, in that we are currently in the process of spending our entire Income Tax Refund on a kitchen makeover that my wife has wanted for years(new granite counter top, decorative tile backsplash and tile flooring). All I want is a little 32' LCD HDTV(to replace the old SD 21' Philips tube TV), another DirecTV HD DVR(to replace the old SD TIVO) and MRV for our bedroom. That's not a lot to ask for, right???P.S.Just noticed........that the name of the forum has been changed to 'MRV(Beta & Pilot)'. I'd say that makes the 'real' rollout of MRV installs quite 'official'!!!!!!

joed32 · Answer

I heard $3 per month.

bigbluu · Answer

For those of you where the MRV is working fine, can you share info on which equipment you have it connected to, or make suggestions? I've got mine all hardwired to a switch (Netgear something...about 3 yrs old). My receivers' connection are sporadic. Usually just after turning on, it'll work fine. But once I start to view a program (HD) from another receiver, it'll lose connection about 5-10 minutes in. I have yet to be able to watch more than approximately 10 minutes of continuously uninterrupted programming. I'm thinking I need to replace my swtich to a newer one. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!

dcd · Answer

If I were you I'd await the release of DECA which will route the MRV signal through the coax signal cable and will not pass it through the router or switch.

greywolf · Answer

I have a router with four outputs plus a switch in the electrical closet. Those outputs serve two computers in the kids' rooms, two switches in the living room and a switch in my bedroom. The bedroom switch feeds a computer, two DVRs and a Blu-Ray player. One living room switch feeds a printer and a computer. The other switch feeds a DVR and a Blu-Ray player on the other side of the room. The router also supports three wireless notebooks. I used to have some niggling glitches until I used a Network Magic program that came with the router to set up the network. Now everything is working great.

crashin2416 · Answer

Please be sure to not just 'replace' your switch. While it may suffice for basic home computing, PC networking... it is in fact a different type of networking equipment than a router. Grab a new router, they're not at all expensive these days. You can typically get a decent one for about $50 - maybe $20 more if you add wireless to it as well.

dcd · Answer

bigbluu, I would heed crashin2416's advice if I were you. A switch is in no way a substitute for a router. A switch is a glorified splitter while a router is a full fledged traffic manager. Get a router.

rad1 · Answer

To clearify, a router is only called into doing anything network wise when the destination IP address is on a differnet network number then the source. Other then that local traffic for devices connected to the router use the internal switch that's part of the router.

Example, the subnet mask for your network is 255.255.255.0, and your local lan IP network is 192.168.1.X as long as the destination address is 192.168.1.Y the router part of the router doesn't do anything, the internal switch controls the traffic flow.

rad1 · Answer

To clearify, a router is only called into doing anything network wise when the destination IP address is on a differnet network number then the source. Other then that local traffic for devices connected to the router use the internal switch that's part of the router.

Example, the subnet mask for your network is 255.255.255.0, and your local lan IP network is 192.168.1.X as long as the destination address is 192.168.1.Y the router part of the router doesn't do anything, the internal switch controls the traffic flow.

dcd · Answer

That's all true, but in this case if the user is intending to purchase a new device they need to get a router. For Directv purposes a router is essential for not only MRV, but for On Demand, Directv2PC and Media Share. Not to mention the networking of other computers, BluRay, games etc. I say again, a switch is great when you need to expand the number of ports but in this case, buy a router.

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