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Props to you DirecTV. This MRV feature came to fruition and it's working well. I had my 2 HD-DVR's working together for the last few weeks but then the amazing part: the long awaited HD receiver update (I got it late last week in Los Angeles).

From my HD-receiver, not only can I see and play both the HD-DVR's playlists in the combined playlist, but now have the ability to record from the HD Receiver. I didn't know this coming. The receiver is not actually recording (I know that), but you can ask it to "proxy" your request to your HD-DVR(s) (if you have more than 1, you can choose which HD-DVR to record the show). You then can stop your live HD receiver feed, go to the playlist, and play your new recording. All the pause, rewind, ff, features are there. That's fantastic!

I'll pay for MRV but PLEASE don't make it DECA only (I'm not sure what the latest news is). Please let people use their own ethernet setup like mine (who wired his house years ago waiting for this). I understand DirecTV will not support (help over the phone or on-site) the non-DECA setups, as it's the user's risk and responsibility, and that's fine with me. Supporting DECA only is fair considering DirecTV will understand that technology and be trained to help over the phone and onsite.

I see many users here struggling trying all those wireless and ethernet over power setups. Those who did get it working with those technologies - impressive! Good luck to everyone else but I would suggest a real CAT5e or CAT6 ethernet solution or wait for DECA. That's the only way to get low latency with fast bandwidth.

Thanks again DirecTV... like somebody said in a previous post: the best thing since HD.

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rad1

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41 Messages

15 years ago

Sorry still disagree. I worked in networking for a number of years and the ONLY time a router gets involved with the traffic is when it's destined for outside the home, other then that it's just a switch like any other standalone switch. Out of all the examples you mentioned the only one where a router would be involved in determining where traffic would go is DirecTV on Demand.

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dcd

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15 years ago

rad, Apparently you aren't familiar with all of the various networking features available to the HD DVR/receiver family. First there is On Demand, which you mention off handedly, which requires a Internet connection. Then there is IPPV call back for those without a telephone connection. I respect that you may have extensive experience, but this is not a debate, any good setup will connect to a router and thence to a modem. Besides, who doesn't have a router to direct the traffic on their computers? If you were advising new users on a daily basis and recommending switches it wouldn't be long before those same users were asking you "what about On Demand?"

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rad1

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15 years ago

DCD, the person posted that he had his DVR's connected to a switch, your recommendation is to get a router. Just saying that for traffic internal to the home a router does NOTHING for directing traffic on that LAN, a router only comes into play when traffic is routed to a different network. It's because your your post to that person, that said he had dropped connections for MRV between his HD DVR's you said get rid of the switch and get a router, just saying a router won't do anything more then what his switch would do, unless his switch is broken.

Oh, and by the way, I know about about what the DirecTV receivers can and can't do over the network, including testing DECA networking.

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bigbluu

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15 years ago

Thanks to all of you for your technical feedback and suggestions, even though some of it was over my head. Just to clarify, I do have a wireless router hooked up to my DSL modem. My 8-port switch is needed to connect all the outlets in my house as they are all prewired. I will try the router replacement first as I have been meaning to upgrade to a wireless n router. I just picked up a new laptop with wireless n last month, so it's perfect timing. Hope that will resolve my MRV issues. Thanks again!

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dcd

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15 years ago

One clarification. The original poster stated that he felt his switch was malfunctioning and he needed to replace it. A follow up poster stated that if he were going to replace the switch he should consider getting a router instead. I concurred due to the wider range of function available in a router. That's my advice still. If you wish to advise him to replace the faulty device with a switch that's okay with me. I think that pretty well covers the issue, don't you?
Note that neither a router nor a switch is required for MRV alone. You can connect the DVR's/receivers directly. That's how a DECA system works.

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rad1

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15 years ago

I reread bigluu's issue and he didn't say his switch was failing, he said his MRV sessions were dropping and he thought he might need a new switch, didn't say it was failing. While he may have a bad switch replacing the switch with a router would of course fix that problem. And your solution will work as long has he gets a router that has enough switch ports in it that would allow him to move the connections that are on his current switch to his new router, since most routers have only a four port switch in them, if he needs more then four then he's still going to need an external switch.

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crashin2416

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15 years ago

Or a secondary router uplinked... (crossover)

My main point in moving away from the switch was for the external connections. On any SWM system, then obviously DECA system, once any one of the HD-DVRs are connected to the network, they all can make their monthly callbacks through the internet. That's putting each and every IRD in communication with networks outside of the customer's home. Thence my recommendation, plus the utility added with a router for non-DirecTV equipment networking as well.

Add to that the price difference being nearly negligible... I'd buy 2 routers before 1 router + 1 switch...
The response was to MY recommendation, just agreeing, not suggesting that my suggestion was a requirement. I read that bigluu was considering replacing the switch, and just wanted to recommend "upgrading" rather than swapping out with another switch.

Plenty of good information here, hope nobody feels their toes were stepped on.
Back to enjoying recordings from a non-DVR receiver, thanks!

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amhelwig

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15 years ago

We ran all the lines ourselves and have all 4 HD-DVRs connected to our home network and have the MRV working and each receiver talking to the other. I am unsure about the recording capabilities. I would love to be able to direct it to record to a specific box. Didn't see that.

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dcd

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15 years ago

The DVR software does not provide for the remote recording setup you refer to. Only the HD receivers have that feature. It's possible a future upgrade will offer than but it's only a guess on my part.

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