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Very strong signal on 101, not so much on others - how to proceed?
Context: I am setting up my own satellite (for reasons I won't go into here). I have a very strong signal on 101, with pretty puny signals (15-30, with some zeros and lower digits thrown in) on 99ca, 99cb, 103ca, and 103cb.
First & less important question: are these other satellites still considered the 'ones you need' for the West Coast USA? My info may be out of date.
Second & more important question: With 101 locked in, is it theoretically possible to go from these low signals on 99ca, 99cb, 103ca, and 103cb to a stronger signal through fine-tuning/adjustment of the black dials alone (forgetting the term for this type of adjustment, but I am referring to the numbered black dials that look like guitar amp volume knobs)? The other possibility is that some branches are affecting these satellites, which I can maybe deal with.
The main question is - should I keep 101 locked in, since it's strong, and do you think it's possible to get stronger signal on the others just through fine tuning the black dials (assuming branches aren't the problem), or is the signal too low on those satellites for that to be likely/possible?
Thanks for any help.


dolphinseal
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I am getting almost all 95 on 101 transponders (one 100, one 0, one 72, rest are 95-97 after dithering (I went into the signal meters for 101 satellite and tweaked each dial back and forth to see what highest % was I could get on tuners - 96 was tops).
99ca ranges from 82-90 on all transponders.
99cb ranges from 82-91 on all transponders.
103ca ranges from 72-92 on all transponders.
103cb ranges from 80-88 on all transponders.
The tuner readings range from 88% to 94% on those satellites.
Anything you guys would recommend, given this situation?
Would it make sense to focus on fine tuning the signal for satellite/s I know I want the channels off of (using a channel guide I found online)? I am wondering if improving on one will be to the detriment of another, and hoping not to be running in circles.
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shannon02
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Those are pretty good so maybe time to trim those branches. You can't fine tune channels.
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detuch254
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You should dither using a 99 or 103 transponder, not a 101 transponder. It’s OK (though), as those signals are not terrible and should work for a temporary setup.
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litzdog911
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Those readings should be fine.
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dolphinseal
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@shannon02 @litzdog911 Thank you.
@detuch254 So ideally do you think it would be good to go back and tweak again with more attention to getting 99 or 103 strongest? And how would you choose which?
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litzdog911
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If you're getting high 80s to low 90s on the majority of the 99 and 103 transponders, you're doing fine. Don't overthink it.
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detuch254
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Since it’s a temporary setup, you should be fine. For a home install you should pay more attention to 99 and 103, yes. As long as all signals are above 85 on all satellites you are good to go. Some may appear as 0 as they are spotbeamed, etc.
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dolphinseal
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@detuch254 Not a temporary setup! But thank you - just one question - when you say '85 on all satellites,' do you mean the tuner readings you see beyond the initial screen that shows all the transponders (% readings with the bars)? Or do you mean the individual transponder readings on the initial screen? I find the tuner screen easier to work with, as there aren't so many different numbers.
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dolphinseal
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A rep at Solid Signal told me "the tilt angle is the only way to adjust 99 and 103 as far as I’ve ever seen, and the fine tuning is just for elevation and direction (up/down, left/right)" - so with that, I'm thinking if I want to improve 99 or 103, I just tweak with that - though he said current readings are likely adequate for activation.
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detuch254
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@dolphinseal
I meant that the majority of numbers from the prior screen listing the transponders (not signal bars) from 101, 99 (ca), 99 (cb), 103 (ca), and 103 (cb) were 85 or higher. This is especially important if it is a permanent setup as it prevents the chance of rain fade.
The Solid Signal rep was partially correct, however being that 99 101 and 103 are all so close together, skew is negligible. As long as you get around or higher than 85 on most, it should work as expected.
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TexasBrit
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OK, could you improve on those numbers? Possibly, if you go back and repeat the dithering process. Do you need to improve on them? No, they are fine, as litzdog says. And yes the skew is almost irrelevant in fine tuning because the satellites are so close together.
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litzdog911
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Like I said, don't sweat it. Those readings are fine. Enjoy!
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