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Monday, October 26th, 2015 4:54 AM

Can I connect my TV internet from the same Cat 6 cable going to my STB?

I just got Uverse.  I have a single Cat 6 cable going to the set.  It is a smart TV and I want to connect the TV to the Internet for Netflix, etc.  Can I do that from the one ethernet cable?  If I need a switch what type would it require? Should it go before the STB or after it?  I just beed to split the signal to the STB and to the Internet connection on  the TV.

 

I also, have RG6 in the same box.  Can I connect the STB by coax from the RG and use the ethernet cable for the Smart TV connection?  Or, am going to need two ethernet cables, one for the stb and one for the TV?  

 

I've seen a lot of chatter about similat issues, but not quite what I need.  A drawing would be great!  Thanks,  Joe

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9 years ago

The GS105 is actually an ideal switch for this application, as it is the one AT&T would use to provide additional ports for your Gateway.  You can do this first, and if it works, just use it.  

 

The reason I tend to avoid Coax is that it seems to be more problematic making solid and reliable connections than RJ45/Ethernet.  If you only need to connect one TV Receiver to your RG, I'd place a barrel connector--not a splitter unless you (a) don't have a choice, and (b) do have terminating resistors for all the ports not in use--at the distribution point between the two legs.  Hand tighten the connectors at all wall plates.  I do still have one coax TV Receiver (because I have zero Ethernet cables there), but it have to retighten the coax connections from time to time (every 18-24 months maybe); I don't have to do anything with the RJ45 jacks/plugs.

 

#4 is very involved and is for the adventerous.  The idea is you form two virtual networks running between the two switches and running over your single cable.  Plug one RG port into an IPTV VLAN port and the other RG port into the Network VLAN port.  Connect the two switches with your Cat6 cable.  On the other then you can now virtually connect to the RG port for IPTV with your TV receiver, and the TV to a Network VLAN port.  The TV doesn't see the IPTV and the TV receiver doesn't see the network traffic.   It's basically the same environment as #5, but on one cable.  You would still be limited to 1 Gbps on the single cable.

 

 

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9 years ago

@joepiccaso - Data cable is NOT designed to be multipled by splicing the wire. It requires electronics (switch or router).

 

For the u-uerse application it is best to keep legs from the RG dedicated to either internet or TV to prevent flooding the switch. Switch is the simple multiplier. Router requires more setup.

 

This does then require two wires to a Smart TV one to the STB for TV(or WAP) & the other to the TV for internet (or wi-fi).

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9 years ago

You could change that receiver out to a wireless STB and use the existing Cat 6 for internet for your TV.

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9 years ago

You could:

  1. Use the Coax from the RG to your TV Receiver and plug the TV into the RJ45 port on the back of the Receiver
  2. Use the Coax from the RG to your TV Receiver and the Cat6 for your Internet for your TV
  3. Connect the Cat6 to a Gigabit switch and feed both the TV Receiver and the TV from that.
  4. Purchase two gigabit switches that have the VLAN with tagging feature, place one at the RG, place one at the TV/Receiver and create a VLAN for the IPTV traffic and another one for the Internet traffic.
  5. Run an additional Cat6 from the RG to the location.

 

These suggestions are arranged from least desirable (1) to most desirable (5).  3 will probably work fine, as long as you don't start adding other things to that switch (Wireless Access Point, for instance).

 

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9 years ago

Thank you, BeeBeeSA.  Yes, I thought of that, but I fear wireless connections not being fast enough to avoid buffering some times.  I'm new to Uverse, but it may be fine.  I did get one wireless receiver, but he put it where I had no cables pulled yet.  I could give that a try and see how it works.

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9 years ago

Thank you.  I wasn't clear in my question, but I do realize I cannot splice the Ethernet cable.  I was mostly wondering if I could Use both the coax connection and the Ethernet connections on the RG at the same time?
I have Coax (Quad shielded RG 6) already in the house from a Comcast install.  If the I could use both, I could use the Cat 6 I ran for the Smart function on the TVs and the Coax for the Uverse TV function on the STBs.  

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9 years ago

Thank you, JefferMC .  These were the answers I was looking for.  I appreciate the suggested order of desirability as well.  I do have a couple questions, though.

 

Since I have both a Coax and a Cat 6 in the box by the TV (wired for Comcast), I was hoping to utilize both connections.  So:

 

#1 is out, since I have both cables already installed.

 

#2 is the choice I was hoping for, but now I'm not sure since it the 2nd least desirable method.  If I do hook my RG Coax connection to the RG 6 wiring, will that overly weaken my Ethernet TV connections at other sets?  It does have a TAP and an amplifier connected to the coax network.  I used the TAP to take the stronger signal directly to the Modem and the weaker signal went to the amplifier and then to the Set Boxes.  This was my oprevious Comcast set up.

 

#3 also, was one of the solutions I preferred if it would split the signal adequately for the TV.  I have a couple of Switches at my disposal.  Would you mind commenting on them as to which should work and best, if at all?  

   A)    TP-LINK TL-SG105 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Desktop Switch, 10/100/1000 Mbps,IEEE 802.1p QoS

   B)  NETGEAR 5-ProSAFE GS105Ev2 Port Gigabit Web Managed (Plus) Switch  I don't think this model is actually a managed switch, though.

 

 

#4  You totally lost me on this one.  I have a slight degree of technical knowledge, but that one went way over my head.  I will say that I have two Netgear 3800 series routers, I used on a previous network using Comcast.  One was my regular router before and the other I used as a WAP.  I'm not sure I can still use these with Uverse, since AT&T has that RG (Modem/Router combined thing).  I guess I could still use them as a WAP and a Switch if I need more connections.  

 

#5  I was hoping to avoid having to run a new cable since getting them where I need them, now that the remodeling construction is completed, will be messy.  I wired it for Comcast with a Coax and an Ethernet in each box in each room.  I'm getting too old to go climbing in my attic, and my wife won't let me cut anymore holes in the Sheetrock.   #'s 2 & 3 seem the best choices for me.

 

Thank you for your help.  If you have anymore advice, I'm all ears.

 

Joe

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9 years ago

JefferMC, Much thanks!  I appreciate the added explanation.  #4 made more sense this time, but still over my head.  If the GS105 gives me trouble, I know what to try next.  Take care.  Joe


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