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Saturday, May 1st, 2021

ATT Saleswoman promised the installation fee would be waived

I recently set up a second DirecTV account at my second home. The saleswoman who sold me the service (on a phone call to what I assume was an ATT employee) said "since you are an existing customer at your other address, we will waive the installation fee for this second home."

My first bill for the second account comes and it has a $99 installation fee, contrary to the promise made by the saleswoman.

I call the support line to complain, and to try to get the charge removed. The guy who answers the support line, by the way, doesn't answer any of my questions himself (was he a trainee?), he texts all of my questions and comments to a supervisor, who I never get to talk to. The agent then just reads me what the hidden supervisor writes in his text response.

First the supervisor says about my complaint "oh, you'll get refunded that fee when you eventually close the account at your other house." I told him the gal who promised to waive the installation had no idea when I would be closing the first account, she made the promise unconditionally. And I don't why the waiver of an "installation fee" has to wait potentially years to be implemented, when she implied it would be waived at the start.

Then the supervisor wrote back (again, as read to me by the support guy on the phone) "Oh, it's not really an installation fee, you are actually 'paying for the Genie 2 box'." That's nonsense of course. I asked "so I now OWN the Genie 2 box? I don't have to return it?" Well no, they said, you have to return it. "So it's a deposit then? I get the money back when I eventually return the box under this new contract? Because my bill specifically calls it an installation charge." Well no, it's not a deposit, he wrote. "So how is it I'm 'paying for the box'? Isn't it just an installation charge, like my bill says?" No clear answer comes back, the supervisor just digs in his heels and says "I've reviewed all charges on this bill, they are all valid. You have to pay it."

Oh and I also ask - "why does the bill say that I 'agreed to pay the installation charge in 3 equal installments?' The amount is $99 - will I be paying $99 two more times? Cause I KNOW the sales lady never spoke about '3 equal payments' of ANYTHING." Well no, he said, the installation charge is always a one-time $99 cost (notice that he finally started calling it an installation charge, after denying at first that's what it was). He also claims that his system doesn't call it an installation charge, nor does it say anything about 3 equal installments. Fortunately I know how to do a "screen grab," and I have a printout of what was on my screen inside of my online ATT account.

Bottom line - I was lied to about a significant charge by the sales agent  as part of her attempt to persuade me to sign on to a two-year contract, then I was lied to (twice) by the support team to get me to stop complaining about the presence of the supposed-to-be-waived charge (first lie: "you'll get it back when you close your first account", second lie: "it's not an installation charge, you are paying for the box").

I asked for the issue to be escalated. Of course I have zero chance in (Edited per community guidelines) of getting this all resolved in my favor, despite the fact that ATT records all of these phone calls and could establish the veracity of what I'm saying in a matter of minutes. And despite the fact that my bill clearly states it's an installation charge, not an equipment deposit. So basically I'm locked into a two-year contract despite repeated acts of bad faith by ATT. Oh well...

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5 years ago

All DTV receivers have a one time upfront lease fee unless you have a free upgrade. Don't know why there would be a monthly fee.  The upfront lease fee depends on the receiver, main Genies are $299 HDDVRs $199 and minis and H receivers are $99.

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Shannon - Okay, I just got a breakdown letter from AT&T which I think is consistent with what you are saying, but it's still, in my opinion, fraudulent what they are doing.

My breakdown bill says there is a $399 "lease fee" for the main Genie 2 (not $299, as you say in your post), and a $99 lease fee for each of the two Genie 2 minis I got. The "waiver of installation" that the sales lady was referring to - as far as I can tell from the breakdown bill - is that AT&T "waived" the $99 lease fee for the two Genie 2 minis (making them costless to me from a lease fee perspective) and AT&T "waived" $300 of the $399 lease fee on the Genie 2 itself.

Okay fine, I get it - this is all about a "lease fee" rather than an "installation fee" (a meaningless distinction, it's really an installation fee, since it has nothing to do with the length of time that I will be "leasing" the equipment). But the sales lady did not explain this in detail, and she did NOT say that some (but not all) of the lease fees would be waived. She portrayed them as installation fees, and she intimated that they would ALL be waived. In reality, of the (roughly) $600 in one-time-only "lease fees" I am being charged, AT&T is waiving $500 of it, leaving me to pay a one-time-only charge of $99 (plus the $20 activation fee and about a $10 one-time-only charge for taxes - I have no objection to those two items, I object to the net differential in the lease fee for the main Genie 2).

I consider the sales lady to be fraudulent for two reasons - first, she didn't describe the idea that there would be "lease fees" at all, and to the extent that she mischaracterized them as installation fees, she very clearly implied that they would be FULLY waived.

I'll pay it and I'll keep DirecTV, but the sales practices are crap...

ACE - Expert

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5 years ago

The HS17 Genie2 lease fee is $399. the other HR44/HR54 Genies are $299.

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5 years ago

Yep that would be the one-time lease cost when you don't qualify for free equipment. A 2nd account doesn't get much in the way of specials as you are not a new customer since you've already had your intro discount and starting equipment.

HD non-DVR $99

Mini Genie Client (wired, wireless, or 4K) $99

HDDVR $199

Genie $299

Genie-2 (HS17, only 1 model so far) $399 (and forbids everything but Clients).

Call DirecTV and submit a complaint via supervisor on that sales agent. In the future always read the order confirmation before you are installed and activated (upgrade, movers, 2nd home, or other changes) so you can catch things like this before it is too late.


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